Showing posts with label personality types. Show all posts
Showing posts with label personality types. Show all posts

Saturday, January 26, 2008

The Perfect Couple

In the last post we asked the musical question: If it happens that Jodie dumps Mack, is there a person to whom Mack would naturally gravitate, someone he knows from Lawndale?

If Mack is an ESFJ, there are two personality types likely to gravitate to him, and he to them, according to Myers Briggs personality theory. One of those types is an ISFP, often called the Artist. In short:

Jane Lane.

Yes, it is true, Mack and Jane appear to be extremely compatible. And here we fanfic writers thought we were just making it all up. We definitely need more Jane/Mack fan art.

Interesting that Jane and Mack, though friendly, never seem to throw off sparks when near each other. Both of them are just too nice to do anything about a mutual attraction, if such exists. Neither would want to hurt Jodie. On the other hand, this is why we have fanfic, isn't it?

Saint Mack

Even using comparisons with Jodie Landon and other students, Michael Jordan Mackenzie's personality type is difficult to pin down. Some of the traits he is given in the series appear to conflict with each other (being reliable and faithful, but irresponsible with money), though not to a critical degree. A good athlete, he is also bright and well read, and makes good grades. Nonetheless, he is not on the level of Jodie and Daria in intelligence.

After considerable reading and review, I would guess that Mack is an ESFJ: extroverted, generally emotional in his expression, concerned with the here and now, resolves his problems and looks for closure. He is, as noted above, reliable and disinclined to cheat on a girlfriend, but a free-spender and not good with his allowance, apparently spending most of it on Jodie. He is warm and caring, full of energy, responsible, enjoys structure, obeys the law, has a strong moral and ethical sense, and prefers practical solutions to problems. Saint Mack, indeed.

Materials about the Myers Briggs personality system always say that any two well-balanced personalities can become mates, though certain types are prone to go for certain other types. In the case of Mack and Jodie, I looked through various articles to learn if the two had a natural chemistry. They don't. Fanfic writers have played with this idea for years.

It is interesting at this point to look again at Jodie's editorial in The Daria Diaries and study what she says about Mack, without naming him: "And why are you dating the captain of the football team—because you like him, or because he's who he is and you're who you are and others don't care to question the equation?"

Does Jodie think of her relationship with Mack as artificial, founded on false expectations and inexperience? It sounds like it. Are they doomed as a couple? Not necessarily, but I've long had a gut instinct that Jodie will one day tell Mack, probably in college, that they should "just be friends." If it happens that Jodie dumps Mack, is there a person to whom Mack would naturally gravitate, someone he knows from Lawndale? An interesting thought to be explored later.

The Two J's

Continuing our train of thought from the last two postings . . .

Picture "Esteemsters" with Jane unavailable to Daria because Jane already has a best friend with whom she can watch Sick, Sad World, visit UFO conventions, and complain about school. Jane might not even be in the self-esteem class, having tested out of it long ago with Jodie so they could do whatever they wanted after classes. The match becomes even better when you look at their dating habits. Jodie already has a steady boyfriend; Jane is happy to play the field as she did when Daria was around. Jodie, being practical-minded and having a bf herself, is more accepting of the time Jane spends dating; she won't become morose about it as Daria did ("See Jane Run," etc.).

Is Jodie an outcast? She's one of the few black students at Lawndale High, so yes, that could happen along racial lines, but Jodie could also be fed up with the world in general, as is Daria. Jodie in fact already is fed up with the world, but she plays the game and milks The System for all it's worth under her parents' direction. Remove the parental push, and . . . she's Daria. Jane and Jodie obviously knew each other before Daria appeared: witness their joint remembrance in "The Big House" of Mr. DeMartino's heart attack the year before. They could have been best friends for years.

Any chance of a triangle developing between Jane, Jodie, and Mack? Probably not. Saint Mack wouldn't cheat on a girlfriend, and Jane never showed she was inclined to move in on another girl's territory (unlike Daria or Quinn). As a result, a Jane-Jodie friendship is probably going to be a keeper.

[LATE ADD: I was forced to modify the above text following a discovery I made a few minutes ago. As I am so fond of saying, more later.]

Under these circumstances, what about Daria? She enters Lawndale an outcast and remains that way, alone as she told Tom in DDMD she feared she always would be . . . unless she finds a different best friend, a topic for later. We haven't investigated Mack's personality yet, and that's in the next posting.

Just the Same, Only Different

Daria and Jodie have an interesting conversation near the end of "Gifted," as they review their day at Grove Hills and share something about how they each deal with the world. "Believe me," Jodie tells Daria, "I'd like to be more like you." "Well, I have to admit, there are times when I'd like to be more like you," Daria responds. "Really?" says Jodie. "I'm not saying all the time," Daria qualifies.

The funny thing here is, Jodie and Daria are alike. Do they realize it on some instinctual level? To the best of my ability to tell, both of them are INTJs: extremely intelligent and cynical introverts who think through their problems, rely on intuition, look to the future rather than the here and now, and prefer closure to problems rather than continually sorting through options. Jodie is greatly pressured to be more outgoing and resents it mightily; Daria has her own deep well of anger at the way she feels she has been marginalized in her life for being intelligent, unwilling to act shallow and brainless to gain popularity.

Is it possible that Jodie is what Daria could have been, if she had been pressured to be more outgoing by her parents? Helen attempted to do this with her speech about "the mask" in IIFY?, but neither of Daria's parents are focused enough on childrearing to make more of an effort than that. As a result, Daria cruises lazily along under her parents' benign neglect.

Is it possible that Daria is what Jodie could have been, if her parents had not micromanaged her life? Interesting AU possibilities arise here, if Andrew Landon had been more preoccupied with his infant son (per his comments about Ethan to Jake in "Gifted") and less with his eldest daughter. The stage would have been set for sibling rivalry on a massive scale, with Jodie and the middle child Rachel resenting Ethan for being favored, Rachel resenting Jodie's good grades, etc. Sounds a lot of Daria and Quinn in a way. Left to her own devices, who would a more relaxed, benignly neglected Jodie have found for a best friend? Well, if Jodie and Daria are so much alike inside, who was Daria's best friend?

Right. Jane.

More soon.

Jodie and Mack and That Personality Thing

We return to the Myers Briggs personality theory, taking a look at the most perfect student in Lawndale High, and the (unintentionally) most perfect male student there, too. As before, I will wing it and guess at the personality types of these two extraordinary teenagers, then offer a lot of dopey armchair psychology as to what it all means. (I have a degree in armchair psychology, so I'm a professional. Don't try this at home.)

Astronomers find it easier to measure the mass of double stars than single stars, because of the easy-to-see gravitational effects that each star in a double has on the other. A star all by itself doesn't react against anything, making the mass-determination process problematic. The same is true about personality guesswork. Daria and Jane are easier to peg when considered as a dyad rather than separately. The same is true for Jodie and Mack.

Whereas Daria and Jane are both introverts, Jodie and Mack both appear to be extroverts, which to me is rather unusual as it is the extrovert/introvert combination you usually see in mating (at least as the MBTI describes it). Jodie especially is way out there, with all her service-oriented extracurricular activities and leadership positions. Mack for his part is the captain of the football team; it certainly isn't unknown for an introvert to be a leader (lots of them are), but Mack never shows any sign of the complicated interior life that most introverts have. What he says and does is what he really is, which is the hallmark of an extrovert. Mack leads a fairly low-pressure life, though he is driven to distraction by his girlfriend. (See his New Year's resolutions regarding Jodie in The Daria Database.)

Jodie, however, does have a significant interior life. See her Lawndale Lowdown editorial in The Daria Diaries, "Living Up to Your Potential." On the surface she is writing about exactly what the title says, but she's also revealing her highly stressful inner world, driven to overachieve by her father and mother. (The pressure from her father especially is often mentioned in the TV series.) The girl who once wanted to be a ballerina likely started off as an introvert, but was forced to be more social by her parents. In my humble opinion, Jodie is a perfectionist INTJ who was forced to become, in part, an ENTJ.

Even as a high-school student, Jodie is formidable. Brilliant and possessing extraordinary leadership abilities, she has connections leading all the way into Washington, D.C., thanks to her summer work in a Congressman's office (IIFY?). Attracted to business, she wants to start her own company ("Partner's Complaint") and easily manipulates older adults into assisting her by force of her personality and charisma, plus some judicious name-dropping. She adapts quickly to changing situations, has an instinctive grasp of politics (power and personal), and can make the hard calls. And, it must be added, she has one of the most cynical attitudes toward The System of anyone in the series, except possibly Daria herself.

And that opens up a very interesting avenue of inquiry, about which more later.

Sunday, January 20, 2008

What About Tom?

Tom Sloane is hard to tag in terms of personality, and a lot of essays have been written about the difficulties in pinning down his character. (See his entry in DariaWiki for links to those materials.) I had the most success in using a fairly general assessment based on the MBTI, and what came out was that Tom was probably an ENTP.

How did I get this? Fuzzy logic, mostly. Tom strikes me as extroverted, since he makes the first moves on both Jane and Daria, and he does get around a bit (i.e., he's not "antisocial" like Daria). He's unconventional in how he conducts his love relationships (not meaning the triangle thing, but more in how he likes to spend time with a girlfriend). He refers to normal dating habits as "corny crap" in "Sappy Anniversary," an episode that reveals a lot about his views on romance. This isn't necessarily bad, as he can intuitively pick out the right thing to do at times, like that special dinner for Jane with the music, etc. "All I did was meet a girl I thought was cool and I went out with her for a while," he tells Daria in "Dye! Dye! My Darling." "We started to get bored with each other. It happens all the time. It's nobody's fault." In other words, he, like Jane, is prone to change his mind, and he accepts that conflict is a normal part of life. Combine that with his intellectualism and his missing of emotional cues in both Jane and Daria, and he comes out as an ENTP.

What is an ENTP like? The following links will help.
Innovator, inventor, visionary, an ENTP is a restless optimist in search of understanding about the world. (This is the good side, of course.) This seems about right for Tom. He did try to bring out Daria's good side, too. Lot of good it did him, but he did try.

More interesting still, some websites about INTJs (Daria's type) say that the ENTP is a natural mate. No guarantees there, of course. Jane and Quinn both comment (in DDMD and IIFY?) that Daria and Tom would make a good pair. That it didn't work out for Tom doesn't mean it won't work out for another ENTP. INTJs are also attracted to ENFPs and to ESFPs, say the websites.

Wait a minute. Didn't we already talk about ESFPs? Why, yes, we did.

Oops. More on this personality stuff later. Amazing what you can still drag out of a show like this, isn't it?

Throwing Light on Personalities and Daria

Years ago I worked for a game company that also published books. To help writers develop more lifelike and interesting characters, the editors recommended that writers take a look at a book on personality types that was popular at the time, called Please Understand Me. The book included a simple personality test, the Myers Briggs Type Indicator (MBTI), that sorted results by introversion vs. extroversion, thinking vs. feeling/emotional, and so on. The validity of the test in the real world is under question, but it certainly produces some interesting and useful results for fictional folk.

We can't administer the MBTI to Daria characters, but with some guesswork we can peg more than a few personalities in the series. I've mentioned Upchuck in a previous post, but here we will go after bigger fish: namely Daria and Jane. Let's cut to the chase and give you the personality types that each of them seems to be (to me, but feel free to argue it), with some reference links to give you a clearer idea of what the test result means. Take a minute to read the links and see if you agree with my assessment.

Daria Morgendorffer: INTJ
Jane Lane: ISFP
Daria is an introverted thinker who relies on her intuition and likes closure. Jane is an emotional introverted sensualist who loves life's possibilities. Note that the links discuss what personality types these two are most likely to go after, too. More on this later, with guesswork on other characters and their personality types.

What do you think? Food for thought there? For those interested in checking out the original book at the local library, there's an updated version available. While you may not wish to take the test results too seriously for yourself, the book is an excellent thumbnail guide to personality types you can use in fanfiction, the Daria show being no exception.